Foreign Dramas are a Serious Threat to Pakistan Drama Industry- Mubashir Lucman!

We recently shared an article about the Turkish dramas been aired on local channels and the response that we received was somehow a mixture of different ideas and believes. We respect all of them. However, as predicted, Pakistani Celebrities are finding the telecasts of such dramas more than a threat for not only themselves but for the entire media industry. It was last night that the issue was given a huge platform on ARY, where Mubashir Lucman invited Asif Raza Mir, Humayun Saeed, Samina Ahmed and Faisal Qureshi on his show ‘Khari Baat’.

Before the show could even proceed, the host mentioned that the media industry is a source of generating more than Rs. 25 Billion per annum, contributing a good share in the current economy of Pakistan, but it seems more like a conspiracy against the welfare of the country that the foreign dramas are now given a platform to saturate the market for the local projects.

Mentioning the Channel Urdu 1, Mubashir highlighted the double standards of PEMRA. He highlighted that it is becoming more like a trend that we give preference to the foreign talent and that has taken away some best singers, actors and directors who are now serving other countries,leaving Pakistan.

Just as we, the viewers did talk about the vulgarity and boldness which is a measure part of these projects, Mubashir also considered it to be a source of spreading vulgarity in the society, which might be a culture of other nations but is forbidden in our country.

However, Asif Raza Mir did defend Urdu 1 to some extent, blaming PEMRA for giving the rights to these channels. Humayun Saeed criticized the culture that is shown in Ishq-e-Mamnoon and also raised the question that why dont they air the Pakistani dramas in their country then?

It seems that the show was conducted, keeping in view the thoughts of the viewers as Samina Ahmed countered the idealogies that we even saw on our forum, she said that though people say that let it be, the craze would going to end itself, it wont be a threat to the local dramas, even if its true, it would take more than 2 years to settle things down and by then the actors and directors would lose all their interest in the industry that somehow degraded them.

With this show, there is one thing clear that the foreign dramas are certainly a threat to the Pakistan Drama industry. As a devoted Pakistani, I personally condemn the telecast of projects that do not belong to us. Share your views about it, how far do you think, the issue would go and what do you see in the near future, is it what that Mubashir said? Is the next target our News Channels? What do you say?

Blessings,

Nida Zaidi

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  • Xadee

    Nida..persOnally i hate mubashir lucman bt i agree with him..itz gOod that he did 2 shOws back 2 back…u r giving the referance Of one shOw in previOus shOw the guests were saba hameed,kashif mehmOod,asif zara mir,anOther man i dun knw him..
    I appreciate ARY, the only channel left which is suPpOrting and telecasting all pakistani dramas.unlike geO and xpress which will telecast turkish play"noor" n "wOh ishq jOu memnO na raha" respectively… bOth share same male lead cast Of ishq e memnO…n nOw am hating these bOth channels…hadd hai yawr 🙁
    pata nai hmain kb aqal aye gi…pehly theater,phr film phr music industry r ab yh???
    Nida u r dOing great jOb..keep it up:)

    • nida_zaidi

      Despite of bearing harsh words and criticisms, All I try to do is to come up with something worth reading. Thank you so much for the appreciation buddy 🙂
      and really I am unable to understand that what is the reason of showing such dramas here.. yeh to tab bhi nahi hua jab yaha channels to thay but dramay nahi thay… and now when we own a good market locally, they are importing vulgarity… ajeeb!

      • Xadee

        Nida dOsrOn k bary me, me kuch nai kah sakhti…bt atleast i am here tO suppOrt u… 🙂
        kabi kabi kuch batain ignOre krni parti hain…
        Well,back tOwardz the tOpic…kuch lOg kehty han k vulgar ki bat nai krain vulgarity tOu hmary dramas me b hai…tOu me yh kehna chahti hn k vulgarity hai,bilkul hai bt jahan jahan b hai r kOi nai tOu me zarOor ap kO un lOgOn me nazar aOn gi jOu us vulgaity k against hOn gy even agr wOh hmary pakistani cOmericals,
        dramas, mOrning shOws hi kyun na hn..dOsara yh fOreign cOntent ki tOu kOi space hOni hi nai chahyae…indian channels pe kisi ki majaal hai k pakistani drama ya kOi r fOreign drama telecast kr dyn tOu phr juzt hm hi q itny achy bany rahan k indian ,spanish,r turkish cOntent play krty rahain…aik tOu turkish hai na dOsary taraf spanish wOh us sy b zada vulgar lakin zada lOg us ka zikr nai kr rahy becOz us ki rating ishq e memnO sy less hain.bt iam against them aswell…
        nida what r ur views?

        • nida_zaidi

          Honestly speaking, I second your opinion. people talk about the local vulgarity, criticize the corruption within our industry, fair enough, we, as an audience criticize them too…but bajaye is ke k hum yeh theek keren, we are are now importing it!!!

          • Xadee

            TRUE…i agree

        • Anonymous

          All vulger content should be removed whether pakistani, indian or turkish.

  • Anonymous

    The only reason I watch TV is foreign shows. If you take them off air, I'm not going to be watching TV because I don't enjoy Pakistani shows. That's it. This doesn't mean I'm not a patriot and it doesn't mean that I'm a bad Pakistani. It just means that my taste in entertainment is different than yours. Government should NOT interfere in what people choose to watch. Humara deen, humara eeman, humara masla. They are no body to shove things down our throats. Sooner or later, the government will start interfering in every little aspect of our lives and you'll be the first one taking a flight out of the country. So stop your fear mongering. Such is life. Pakistanis have a habit of making a conspiracy theory out of everything in this world.

    • Syed Zeeshan Haider

      @ Anonymous bro no one is begging u to watch Paki Dramas…. If u like turkish dramas then u should call the Cable Operator and ask him to tune any Turkish channel for u…… and stop spoiling our DRAMA industry…. we have a much better quality and subject then what turkey offers ….. IF U R PATRIOT THEN SUPPORT PAKISTAN .

      • Anonymous

        I have better ways to support Pakistan than watch dramas I don't want to watch. You missed the point of the entertainment industry. Urdu1 IS airing Turkish shows. It is people like you who are asking for them to NOT be aired in Pakistan because YOU don't like them but others do. Stop contradicting yourself.

        • Anonymous

          Oh and…a few Turkish shows won't spoil your drama industry. MAJORITY of Urdu1's shows are local. Do your research before you spew gibberish.

      • Love Pakistan

        100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times agree.u r great.bht acha kaha.really appreciate u

  • Anonymous

    Also, instead of advocating a ban on things, you should advocate promotion and marketing of our shows abroad. Banning is never the answer. The more you force people to do something or take away from them, the more rebellious and discontent they become. A basic lesson in human psychology should tell you that.

    By the way, a lot of people watch Ishq-e-mamnoo to see the beautiful backdrop of Turkey. While it is true that the drama is vulgar, keep in mind that it was also fined in Turkey for its vulgarity but I bet you didn't research that. Other Turkish dramas are quite toned down. I suggest you give Fatmagul on Urdu1 a chance because its a story of a girl who was gang-raped – something that is very common in Pakistan's tribal areas. Why didn't Pakistan's industry come up with similar ideas, huh? And Urdu1 also airs a lot of decent local shows so your fears are unfounded.

    • Xadee

      "ME GUNAGHAR NAI" On ary is with the same stOryline as fatmagul…sO ideas ki kami nai hai.
      n yes urdu 1 has sOme gOod lOcal shOws..like patt jhar k bad,jazeera, teri rah me rul gai.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, but I also like watching beautiful views of Turkey among other things. The point is, you can't force me to watch something just because you like it. Nobody is forcing you to watch foreign shows, so don't force us to watch Pakistani shows either. LIVE AND LET LIVE.

        • Xadee

          Believe me nO One here z fOrcing u tO watch pakistani drama…One R twO articles…dOesn't means that we are fOrcing u…bt if there sOme issue the best way is discussiOn…yOu gave yOur OpiniOn…and i am giving my OpiniOn..nOw readers wOuld have tO decided..what cOnvince them mOre as everyOne has right Of speech . 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Both articles are advocating forcing people to NOT watch these shows. They encourage banning and encourage people to talk about banning these shows. The LAST thing Pakistan need is to ban something else. Free speech is your right but if your free speech is promoting a ban on things then that's more like speech designed to suppress people. Like I said, Arab countries are more conservative than Pakistan and even THEY don't consider these shows a "threat". It just goes to show that you don't have faith in your own nation and you think people are dumb enough to be influenced by entertainment. You belittle your own nation when you talk like that.

          • Xadee

            I think majOrity Of Our peOple see what they are shOwn…BefOre urdu1 dOes anyOne wanted pakistani channels tO telecast a turkish plays?
            N advOcating?dO u really think that these articles are cOnvincing peOple…? i dun think sO.u r One example.everyOne has itz Own brain tO think what is right and wrOng tO them.
            N what u want we shOuld nOt even discuss the reasOn n sOlutiOns fOr lOsing wOrth Of Our lOcal drama industry..
            U alsO have right Of speech gO tO submit article cOrner and write a article abOut what u think and prOmOte what that is being supressed by us.

          • Anonymous

            No, but once you show people something good and if they want more of it, then demand and supply comes into play. If you are faulting channels for airing a single Turkish show to begin with, then your theory is incredibly flawed. We live in a global village. You can't shut yourself out from the rest of the world and live in a bubble because introducing something foreign to people may have disastrous effects. This just goes to show how WEAK Pakistani things are in light of competition from abroad. The worth of our drama industry won't be lost if they improve and learn to compete instead of throwing their toys out of their pram and crying about it.

            Also, when someone posts an article, they should expect criticism. Don't be upset just because my views don't support the article. I think the article is an abomination in itself. You keep contradicting yourself. On one hand you say people have their own brains to think. On the other hand, you're supporting a ban on something, implying that people don't have the ability to think which dramas are better and that Turkish dramas may influence them.

            By the way, plEaSe StOp TyPiNgG LyKe dIZ.

          • Anonymous

            Once again, Turkish shows are popular in Greece, the Arab world, and half of Europe. They all have their own dramas AND Turkish dramas. Yet, no one is claiming infiltration of their drama industry except Pakistanis. Why is a threat to your existence? Religious extremism and conspiracy theories are a bigger threat to this nation than a Turkish drama. Your priorities make me laugh.

          • Xadee

            U want me tO speak abOut religiOus cOnspiracies and extremism belOw this thread?? DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE???

          • Anonymous

            Is that all you extracted from my post? Lord almighty…

          • nida_zaidi

            One Question… How do you guys manage to keep arguing like this? 😛

            @ Anonymous, its a humble request to please adopt a soft tone while commenting on the forum. We respect your opinion, it would be better if you too, show some etiquettes.

            Thank you

          • Xadee

            Nida i must say..admin should take some notice…anyone can come here say wot she/he want to bt for GOD sake bat tou tareeky sy krain..nida dosari thread me b abbusive language use ki thi kisi ny ap k liyae.

            Kisi ko agr mera capslock use krna acha nai lagta.sorry readers,of the inconvenience i'll be careful next time bt is this the way to talk?nida wat say?

          • nida_zaidi

            Dear Readers,
            This is to inform you that from now onwards we will be deleting the comments that might hurt the feelings of other readers. Kindly avoid using harsh words on the forum.

            Thanks

          • nida_zaidi

            Xadee,
            Feel free to comment anyway you wish to. We are not here to criticize on things that are one's personal matter. As far as inconvenience of the readers is concerned, Well, to be frank enough, it never hinders me. However, if people here want to read yoru comments more clearly, they can request you to write simply rather than criticizing.

          • Xadee

            Thanku so much nida…u r so kind :))
            its natural someone can feel difficulty with my typing…n can ask me to avoid it in a respectable way.bt what happened was completely unbearable.
            Anyhow,Thankz again 🙂

          • Xadee

            U r living in YOur Own wOrld Of denial…and y shOuld i b upset if u r thinking different…u can think different…bt respect Others and their OpiniOns.

            And plz nO persOnal attacks.

          • Ali Abbas

            I think u should talk with some respect. This channel is a threat to our film industry. My opinion to u is that , first u read the article and then argue.

          • Anonymous

            LOL, this channel also airs excellent quality Pakistani dramas. If you think it is a threat because of one or two Turkish shows, you need help.

          • F214456

            I know….. this is becoming very annoying its as though this person is on a commenting spree to degrade those who dont agree with her/him with all these comments like 'get a life' 'your so short sighted its ridiculous'. Before she goes around giving lessons to people in economics, 'Anonymous' you need a lesson on manners.

          • Anonymous

            Sure, grandma. I don't think that's "degrading" anyone. However, you sure know how to insult the intelligence of the Pakistani population by implying that we can't choose what we should watch and that anything you don't like should be banned from the country. What a hypocritical douche bag. Oops, did that upset you?

  • Anonymous

    its like saying pakistan should ban pepsi and coke in pakistan because RC cola and pakola couldnt do as well as the foreign brands…..its a chance to improve your standards…audience doesnt care what happens to your job…they want to be entertained…if you want to save your job then improve !

    • Hahahahahah

      I thought you were leaving???? LOL!

      • Anonymous

        I decided to have fun riling up extremists here. You're one of them. Changing your name to "hahahaha" isn't going to make you sound like you're laughing and it isn't going to stop me from refuting the silly arguments you are spewing here LOL.

  • sarah

    Channels should stop showing foreign dramas. We don't want to destroy our drama industry and culture. Also we don't want to lose our fantastic actor and actress.

    • Anonymous

      What culture are you talking about? A culture where corruption is rife and people can't observe basic laws? Or a culture where women are considered inferior while men are considered to be superior? Define "culture". Our culture is backward at the moment. Foreign dramas, especially Turkish dramas are really popular in the Arab world which are more conservative than Pakistan. They aren't complaining about these dramas "influencing their culture". Pakistanis are just like Americans – they fear the unknown. It must be a sad life to live in some sort of fear of stupid things all the time. Go play in traffic.

      • Anonymous

        In Ishq-e-mamnoon, they have shown on numerous occasions how the police protects its citizens in Turkey. Why can't Pakistanis take POSITIVES out of foreign shows instead of the negatives? I promise you…no one is going to want to bang their husband's relative just because they watched Ishq-e-mamnoon. Lord have mercy on your thinking.

  • Ibad

    I surprised who watch these foreign dramas. They are not popular but the propaganda done against or in favor of these programmes will make them popular in the long run. So far as vulgarity is concerned, that can not be allowed in the name of liberalism of Media. If others are promoting vulgarity , it is not a justification for showing vulgarity in our dramas and shows.

    • Anonymous

      They aren't promoting vulgarity, dude. Turkish shows have ALWAYS been popular in the Arab world and the Arab countries are less vulgar than Pakistan. Get a clue.

      • Xadee

        I dnw abOut Other turkish plays bt this sOap Opened same discussiOn Of vulgarity in arab and aghanistan as they are nOt liberal sOcieties unlike turkey.

        • Anonymous

          Ishq-e-mamnoon was fined in Turkey as well. This show was an exception. The rest of the shows are aired in the Arab world without any problems. They always have and always will be. Societies aren't influenced by TV shows, trust me. They are more influenced by what they are taught by their elders. American shows have always been aired on Star World and they are WAY more vulgar than Turkish shows. But just because they weren't dubbed, no one noticed. Now all of a sudden, these shows are bad? Doesn't make sense.

          • Xadee

            Elders dO play their part…bt tO me televisOn is alsO a sOurce tO influence sOciety.
            The cOntent On starwOrld wOuld mOre vulgar, true. bt it iz nOt getting highest trp nOr its destrOying Our lOcal industry.this is a cOmmOn practics all Over the wOrld that when a industry is develOping…laws are made tO regulate and increase impOrt duties even bann..sO that lOcal is given space tO flOrish.

          • Anonymous

            Pakistan was made in 1947. It is 2012 now. If you think that the industry is still new and still needs time to flourish then I have no words for you. You have absolutely no knowledge of economics, demand or supply, or even development of industries. Lack of competition is why Pakistani dramas always sucked and now that they have a chance to improve in light of competition from abroad, you want the dramas banned. You, my friend, are a joke. Stop.

          • Anonymous

            By the way, we don't know what Star World's rating is because it's a foreign channel and we don't have any ratings or survey results for it. The reason we have this data for Urdu 1 is because it's a Pakistani channel. Star World is way more popular than silly local channels.

          • Hira

            Societies are definitely influenced by TV shows. GO back to 1990s and see those dramas and check the society and then come back to 2012 and notice your society. Nowadays, house wives are sort of know-it-all in themselves. This is just due to liberty of our media. If media doesn't influence society, then we should have same thoughts like our elders. If media would not have any effect, there was no point in wasting so much money in making dramas on social issues. So, TV shows do have an impact. Secondly, you have talked about Star world shows. I know they have much more vulgarity than Turkish soaps but they are not dubbed. And this is what makes the hell of difference. How many of us watch them? Only that fraction of people who can understand English. Most of our nation watch Urdu shows, they are influenced by them. Turkish soaps are dubbed so their target audiences are children, adults and house wives. There is a difference 🙂

          • Anonymous

            WRONG. The dramas from back in the day reflected upon the society that already existed back then. The dramas of today reflect upon the respective societies in their countries. Regardless, it is not "common" for someone to have an affair with their husband's relative. Ask-i-memnu was based on a popular novel written in the 1800s, in case you didn't know. Like I said, Turkish shows have ALWAYS been aired in the Arab world and they are way more conservative than Pakistan. Can you explain your ridiculous theory?

          • Hira

            DO you even know about Arab's life? Dude, they are not conservative. NOT AT ALL. Bother visiting UAE sometime and you will find out how conservative they are. And secondly, ideas are collected from the existing society but script is not written that way. If you have a knowledge about human psychology, you will find out that each word we hear has an impact on our subconscious. And apart from all these things I just don't understand whats the point in supporting foreign programs when we have our own. This is because we always feel proud in using imported stuff and following their traditions. Still we blame our government, our country for being messy. Ridiculous!

          • Anonymous

            I know enough about Arab life because I lived in Arab nations due to my dad's job. UAE is not conservative but try living in Saudi Arabia (where Turkish shows are MOST popular) and then come back to tell me that they're not conservative.

            You have no knowledge of psychology, ma'am. If human mind is impacted by every little thing, we'd all be running around like crazed loonies. Again, you miss the point of the entertainment industry. If I find Pakistani dramas boring, I'll turn to foreign shows. Stop shoving things down people's throats, lol.

          • Hira

            I am not shoving things down people's throat. Actually you are doing this job, no offense meant, but the thing is we will discourage everything which is threat to our industry. This is like promoting our own things. If you are so obsessed with foreign stuff that you can't even bear criticism, you have no right to consume our country. Support them and consume them. I am out of this discussion. Whatever you reply, I am out.

          • Anonymous

            Lol, no one is "obsessed" with foreign stuff. And watching one or two Turkish dramas doesn't mean anyone is "obsessed" with "foreign stuff". You people are advocating a ban on something and INSISTING that people watch local shows. THAT is called shoving things down people's throats. To each their own. You can watch any drama you want, but don't sit and promote a BAN on things for absurd reasons. You want to preserve the industry? Demand better quality. This is a competition of quality, not a competition of skimpy clothes which short-sighted people like you believe.

          • Anonymous100000000

            Societies are influenced by tv shows why els do you think people are getting worried. Social scientists including psychologists have proved through research that the media is one of the most influential institutions in society.

          • Anonymous

            A lot of things come under "media" – the news, talk shows, etc. You are picking on one or two Turkish dramas and assuming that this is going to cause a revolution in the society. HAHAHAHAHAH. That was hilarious.

  • Anonymous

    Anyway, I am done with this argument and don't care to come back to read the gibberish spewed because it seems that both articles are written by a conspiracy theorist and supported by people who have absolutely no knowledge of how things work, as can be seen. If you want to see some of the views written and supported by EDUCATED Pakistanis, then go and read the "highest recommended" comments under the following article:
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/473718/are-the-turks-

    Now try to counter these arguments with your silly responses.

  • Hira

    Actually, our nation or at least some fraction of it, has become determined to update their social status by supporting such shows. They think that doing this stupidity will present a more liberal bit of them. However, If they do us a favor of opening their eyes, they will find that our own shows are lots better than this foreign rubbish. They don't lack glamour at all. So, if you need a bit of glamour and that is why you are following Turkish soap, Get a life please. Watch IK NAZAR MERI TARAF. This is just one example. The thing is we have made it a status symbol watching and following these shows. Otherwise, We are never short of ideas. We got our viewership back and beat Star plus culture but sadly it is coming back in this alternative form now. It is truly upsetting.

    • Anonymous

      You need to get a life as well if you think that people update their social status by watching or supporting such shows. I am glad to belong to the upper middle class but I would never think of upgrading my social status by watching foreign shows. However, I still love watching them. The end.

      • Hira

        Oh really, Now don't tell me we don't feel proud of buying imported stuff and following foreign belongings? People just think its uncool of them being local stuff followers.
        And I talked about a fraction of nation, that doesn't mean you are in that lol.

        • Anonymous

          The people you are talking about don't even make up 0.05% of the population. A large part of our nation lives below poverty lines and majority of our nation is poor. You may be talking about the elite class but I doubt the elite class sits and watches Urdu dubbed shows. They'd rather watch something American like Game of Thrones, which is aired on HBO and almost pornographic.

          • Hira

            No, I'm actually talking about people who don't have ability to have a good social status, but they are so desperate for one, so they feel proud in copying upper class. And they are not rare. Trust me.

          • Anonymous

            You are so short-sighted that it's ridiculous. Even my MAID watches Ask-i-memnu and not ONCE has she given the impression that she wants to copy rich folks. Please, get a clue. More often than not, when people prefer foreign things, they do so because they are better quality, not because those things make them look better. Where Pakistanis things are better, people will buy only Pakistani stuff because it's economical. You think people have the money to waste? Think again. We're a poor country.

      • Anonymous100000

        No offense but you seem to enjoy targetting the people behind the comment more than their argument. You need to learn that not everyone will agree and nor will you with others; however that doesnt disable you expressing your views in a respectful manner. Out of all things aap yehi seek leyti in foreign shows se.

        • Anonymous

          The argument comes from the people. Why are you feeling so threatened and degraded? Looks like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed, auntie 🙂

  • jojo

    agar vulgarity ke bat kren to wo pakistani dramas main konsa kam hay??ajkal hum tv ka drama MOHABt bhar main jaiy itna sharmnakk hay us pay q koi ni bola ??aik tele film lage hue the Matam wo dykhny walla subject tha kia?????samina ahmed nay bilkol sahe kaha k jysy indian drama ka phobia khtm ho gya aysy he turkish dramas ka b khtm ho jay ga…ye kehna ke ye threat hay ye ni sahe….compitation main any ke bjay dar jaty hain pakistani acters…..agar apny app ko no 1 smjhty hain to sab k onaor hoty huy rating lay k dekhaen phir to baat bny…..wasy i knoo log 2 saal bad khud he hor den gy us ko b..

    • Jerry khan

      Yaar honestly its not a phobia……ik ishq e mumnu is aap dar gaye?? Sawaal yeh hai aur urdu channel ki copy mai geo express sub ne shuru kerdia lol…..baki dramain bhar mai jain…but u cnt deny the fact ishq e mumnu was worthy lolz.

  • mehvish

    atleast its better than indian dramas get over it

  • Maida

    mujhe samaj ni ati sirf ishq e mamnu hi kiyun kehna hai ti veet super modles per b kch kahe hit ho gaya to sab ko prob ho gai spanish drama hit ni huwa usko kisi ne kchh ni kaha jo log ye keh rahe hen wo jalous hen n unka koi ilaj ni

    • asma

      yes maida you are right… pehly indians dramas in k liye threat thy now turkish 😛 but afsos pakistani dramas could not face these challenges .. they always suggest just banned ..!!! 😛

    • Anonymous

      Exactly lol. There's no point knocking sense into these people. Humayun Saeed prepared his own coffin when he decided to play in the same old love stories. He's reaching his 50s and casts alongside a 20 something girl. Talat Hussain's time is also up. They just can't accept change and the fact that they're done.

      • Jerrykhan

        N how can v forget our precoius ashk lol ik mard teen aurtoon ki kahani…belaar baatain hain dumbness ki inteha

  • Jerry khan

    Yaar yeh kya betukki bt hai ….lukman ki leak video bhulgaye hain sub???? Humayun saeed has second marriage with ayesha khan…. Only asif raza mir tawked sense….n be it indian pakistani or turkish…..ishq e mumnu dekho ya veet model show… Ya meri behen maya…ya pakistani celebs ki life… Lol sub kuch monodirectional hai….this show was just another drama to keep audience busy in their cackling tawks…

    • Anonymous

      Lol there is no point reasoning with these conspiracy theorists. I agree with you 100%
      Urdu 1 is a foreign channel, anyway. It is not based in Pakistan or Karachi. It is based in the Arab world Loool. Pakistanis are threatened by everything.

      • Jerry khan

        Its not even abt a threat i. Mean i went to watch cocktail…at atrium in karachi…. N i came out embarassing…. The row ahead me was full of kids..abt 8-7 year……n when we were coming out their parents were asking them beta did u enjoy the movei…i was like woahh lolz… U c the thing is….the mpvie was in our cenimas…ab i cnt deny the fact tht i loved talash its simple whtever is best ull love it : ) n ishq e mumnu was something worthy to watch…

  • mariam

    i do not understand wat is the point of bringing in the outside material when inside has already got enough worth to stand on its own…the recent example of it is the drama called humsafar..which gained phenomenal praise not only in pakistan but in the other parts of world where urdu is understandable..i do not what political objectives are behind it..and who is actually making this stupid decisions…and what will it lead to…

    • Jerry khan

      There is something tht is eye catchy…… Half of pakistan is watching it…. It will lead to nuthing….its not necessar y tht awl foreign stuff is gud… AS FAR AS ISHQ E MUMNU IS CONCERNED IT is one of the finest novel in turkish literature….and the drama was contemporary version …NO doubt humsafar was excellent i feel same for ishq e mumnu…..

  • Ali

    pak dramas r the best

    • nida_zaidi

      I agree 🙂

  • Anonymous1000000

    Turkish soaps are vulger, however,it is unfair to use that as an excuse to ban them as some local dramas in fact numerous have alcohol depiction, show opnely female escorts, rape scenes and awful clothing. What about this veet little miss things whatever it is model programme, style 360 pe jo models kaprey pain kar aati hain what about that that is just as vulfur, what about intimate sexual scenes shown in english movies including kiddy movies like spiderman and batman shown throughout television somtimes dubbed they are not targetted. The bottom line is the main issue is that turkish dramas are a threat to the economy and should be banned. If people want then banned because of vulgarity do not forget to bann the rest aswell as that would be very hypocritical. Also, humaray culure main koi saadigy ya simplicity nahi rahey and I can tell you that living in the UK. When I came back to pakistan I was shocked how people were, their mind set, clothing views, very different I felt out of place in my own country and culture and values jisko merya grandparents ne preserve kar kay instil kiya muj me aur bihat fakhar se kaha ke pakistan waqai aik pak watan hai jahan bohat saadgy aur unity hai magar mujay aakey apna mulk to laga magar bohat badala howa

    • Anonymous

      "Turkish dramas are a threat to the economy and should be banned" – considering the fact that you live in UK, this statement is an abomination. While you're there, please try to enrol in good quality university for a lesson in economics.

      Anyway, the reason people use "vulgarity" as a weapon is to evoke negative feelings among Pakistanis because Pakistani people will do just about anything to ban something if they are told that it's against the teachings of Islam. In other words, cultural threats are used as a weapon.

      • Anonymous

        This is a nation which observes "AASHK E RASOOL" day by breaking and trashing things and killing policemen. What do you expect? Tell them something is vulgar and they'll burn a few tyres and start blowing themselves up in anger. Conspiracy theorists love using such terms.

      • Anonymous10000

        LOL! Chill out someones getting emotional here!

        All I was trying to get across was that vulgarity should not be used as an excuse to ban something because there is plenty of vulgarity in the local media. Also, thank you very much but I dont require any economics lessons and as m answer has reiterated merely what the journalist mentioned in which case the journalist would also require economics lessons. Also I have the right to comment on anything I feel is an interest to me whether I live there or not as at the end of the day I am a Pakistani. Thirdly, I strongly disagree with your statement in that pakistani people will do anything to ban something that goes against the teachings of Islam as a a million thing occur within the media that are advocated yet contradict islamic ethics; dramas, music plays arent exactly islamically permissible now are they!! Regardless of them being a threat to the local industry and subsequently the large revenue that they generate forming a huge chunk of the economy, people feel the need to discuss this because it is a social issue and certain factions of society feel threatened by this therefore, healthy debate and discussion is positive for consensus. Regardless, of the whole issue this is a discussion an on going debate in which everybody has the right to comment and whatever the view it should be respected.

        • Anonymous

          "Regardless of the view, it should be respected". Well, that's funny because both articles that this Nida philosopher has produced on this website are full of comments degrading people who watch foreign shows. They've been called a number of things directly and indirectly. Like the one lady who exclaimed that people watch foreign shows in an attempt to upgrade their social status. Hypocrites.

  • saphire

    aski memnu is vulgar!!! oh plz i find 'always' commercial more vulgar.:/

  • Aysha

    In any case Turkish Drama Serials should not be opened air in Pakistan.

    • Anonymous

      Typical Pakistani mentality. JO MARZEE HO JAYE BASS TURKISH DRAMA NA LAGEY PAKISTAN MEIN.
      Well, thank GOD you don't work for PEMRA and thank GOD you don't decide what Pakistanis should and shouldn't watch.

      • Aysha

        When we are Pakistani, we should have pakistani mentality , what happened when indian dramas took over here , we should flourish our culture and our dramas. even when they are so good. why should copied stuff should be encouraged? it is our dilemma that we are not proud of what we are

        • Anonymous

          I'm sorry but I'd rather have GOOD mentality. Stop enforcing things upon people. Entertainment industry means entertainment. If I don't like something, I'm not going to watch it. Just how you claim that you don't like Turkish dramas and don't want to watch them. Live and let live. Stop being a JALLAAD.

          • hamna

            ap turkey mai hi ja kr reh jayen agar itni muhabat hai, magar hm pakistan mai rehty hain aur pakistani dramay hi dekhna chahty hain!

          • Anonymous

            No one is stopping you from watching local gibberish. And you shouldn't stop us from watching what we want either.

          • ali

            idiot the way cable system works in Pakistan is corrupt. U can watch whatever the hell you want but these Turkish dramas were airing on local grounds while claiming to be a foreign channel.
            I hope they start importing Turkish people and replace annoying dumb women like you maybe then you will realize the root of the problem, miss " typical pakistani thinking"

          • Anonymous

            That was the most pathetic argument you could present to cover up the fact that locally produced dramas are failing everywhere. Go get laid.

  • Jerry kham

    Sub loog bajay apnay corrupt reality ko accept kernay k aur kisi achi cheeze ho acha na accept kerkay apni cowardness ki innteha bata rahain hai….. We r not saying k pakistanhi dramay aint gud….wht we r saying is ishq e mumnu was a gud shot..is mai koi racism nahi…. it deserves an applause

    • Anonymous

      Finally, someone with brains. Agree with you 100%.

    • Shehreen

      applause??? fuck it its a stupid cliche drama and i can name 50 same stories!!! Its pakistanis like you who watch turkish and indian dramas that are a shame to us seriously!!!!!!!

  • Javed

    Tht is the same blunder we did when we allowed indian films & dramas to freely air in Pakistan when still Pakistani channels & dramas are banned there. I have no issue abt turkish dramas being dubbed n urdu if they also dubbed pakistani dramas in turkish language for turkish peoples i mean why are people is soo stupid tht they cannt support own industry its not abt competetion every country in the world supports own industry & than allow others to come but we are strange people or i must say really illiterate our people just go with the flow ….

    • Anonymous

      You make a fair point. Instead of banning, we should PROMOTE OUR INDUSTRY abroad. That's the best solution.

  • TurkishDude

    Wow kind of surprised here by the dislike of these Turkish series. Especially the attack on Turkish culture here is pretty insulting. So if I get this right, we in Turkey are vulgar people who are about to destroy Pakistani culture with our evil tv drama's? And here I thought we were a fellow friendly Muslim country of Pakistan. Guess that memo didn't reach it's inhabitants. Maybe some of our drama series go a bit too far, but no way are they a danger to another countries culture. So weird reading these comments.

    • Anonymous

      Please don't take this as an offense because these views do NOT represent an average Pakistani's view. Ask-i-memnu has been a HIT in Pakistan and somehow, it hasn't gone down too well with a few narrow-minded people. This has nothing to do with you but rather our own insecurity and the fact that our country lacks laws to protect the local industry. So there is some frustration among people here. But this has NOTHING to do with the Turks who are our Muslim brothers that we love very much 🙂

    • ali

      u r not a turkish dude. Anonymous is making this comment, stupid guy/girl

      • TurkishDude

        Actually I am Turkish. Both my parents are from Trabzon. (tho technically my mom is from Of, but that's pretty near Trabzon). Trabzon is located in the North East of Turkey along the Black Sea, so it's a possibility that I have some Caucausus blood in me. But as far as i know I am 100% Turkish. If anybody doubts me, give me your facebook or whatever and I will prove it!

        But this all doesn't change the fact there is some serious anti-Turk sentiment going on this site. Apparently it's not widespread, but still it's weird to see this stuff after all we have done for you guys as a country. That's all. And this has nothing to do with protecting Pakistani Drama, which I somewhat agree with you guys that it should be protected. But seriously stop making our culture the culprit of this all. Like I said it's insulting!

        • jin

          dont care. please dont post here again "turkishdude" yeah right.

          • TurkishDude

            Don't worry, this will be my last posts here! The Turkish economy is 6 times as big as that of Pakistan, while having 100 million less people (80mil vs 180mil). So clearly we are doing some things better then you guys, so why not strengthen that relationship and maybe pick a few things up along the way. Cutting yourself off from the outside world will bring you nothing. Anyway apparently nobody here cares what I say, so good luck watching our tv drama's. We make close to 60 of them a year, so there is enough to provide you guys for a few decades. The drama "Ezel" is probably the best one ever made, so if that one makes it over be sure to pay attention! Hoşçakal beyler!

          • Shehreen

            hey turk look we pakis dont have anything against youbut yea we ARE worried that your tvshows are having a bad impact on our culture. I dont mean that girls here wear burqas all the time but they dont here deep necked clothes either and nor do we drink alcohol which is openly shown in your tvshow. They ARE vulgur for us but seriously dude no offense!!!!

          • Anonymous

            You really are a JIN. Loser

      • Anonymous

        Yet another fool. Denying something won't get you anywhere, idiot.

  • Shayan

    Nice Article Nida and great debate in the comments 😉

  • leila

    i hate ishq memnu..these kind of dramas has a bad and Unethical effects on islamic culture.. on family beliefs…

    • Anonymous

      Sure, and Pakistani dramas like MAAT are very Islamic, right?

  • Girlie

    OMG shocked ..am shocked..! such a typical persons ov pakistani industry.. i love turkish serials..N yay these pplx would not decide that what should we watch n what not.,, we want change in our industry..n this is a change..ishq e memnu was a awesum serial..every turkish serial has its own story n lesson fo ppls…what soo rubbish in it.. i dun know ..is they are jealous from its tremendous popularity??

    • Shehreen

      first our film industry failed then music industry!! do you want our tvdramas to fail toooo??? You are a pakistan and you SHOULD be worried because dramas are all we have and if they fail too yourCOUNTRY will have no local entertainment. you want that to happen then go ahead and watch turkish dramas whose stopping you???? but if a tiny glow of patriotism sparks in you then you will stop yourself!!! Its people like you who are embarrassed of their culture and crazy abt fucked up indian movies!! I on the other hand am proud to be a pakistani and love my dramas!!!!!!

  • sif

    we love pak dramas

  • misshi

    pakistani dramas ki ab itni demand nhi jitni turkish dramo ki hai n vulgarity ki bt kartay ho tou pakistani dramo mai kon sa kaam hai qudusi shaab ki beywah yah zindagi hai is mai langauge ka use dekhay aap is sai tou bht better hai turkish drama atleast

  • SOBIA JABEEN

    there is no kind of drama can compete our paki dramas…they all have some precious moral in it…and wat about turkish..they have the same stories 4 drama of love, affection etc..they can't do any thing beside of them…we are the best bcoz we can make evry type of drama serial.. so plzz apne mulk k dramo ko pasand kren..jahan rehte ho jahan ka khatee ho…uske baare mein itni khrab baten krne se pehle soch lene chahye…

  • faris

    Mubashar lukman is a sold A** hol* if it is a threat then pakistan should beat those foreign dramas by the quality not by abusing those dramas….it sounds like pakistani viewership is bad which is funny.

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